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Amiable Quinn
Minmatar
Lasleinur Production
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Posted - 2007.02.07 16:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Drakma
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Shin Ra
That is, of course, entirerly possible. But its not excalty conclusive proof that will shut up everyone is it? So passing it off like that in an arrogant sort of way isn't really helping is it?
Also, Judicator is still in Reikoku. What happened?
The "prosecution" doesn't need conclusive proof, but the defense does?
Seriously Shin, get a grip mate.
Is this a court of law?
Does it matter? Are you saying the burden of proof should be different... just because you say so?
This is not a court of law. If this WAS a court of law the prosecution would have something called "discovery" where they would be able to use subpoena power (well if they worked for the government) to:
1. Gain access to all of CCP's computer records.
2. Gain access to all of BoB's records
3. Gain access to all of Kug's computer records
4. Depose all relevant individuals.
Quite frankly this is not a court of law (and not a case that any court of law in any country would be remotely interested in). As such our only source of information are what we see in the blogs and what we get from CCP.
Those of you arguing that "this would never convict someone in a court of law completely miss the point. We can only go on the evidence that is presented to us. If CCP refuses to address this information or show any transparency then any ensuing tin-foil hattery is on their heads, because they refuse to honestly address the issue.
As someone who deals with "burden of proof" on a daily basis allow me to say that MOST cases (especially white collar crimes) are decided on circumtantial records, especially e-mail logs. Why? Because non-circumstantial evidence requires a witness, and often there are no witnesses in these cases.
This is why it is vitally important for CCP to address some fundamental questions:
1. How was this investigation undertaken?
2. Was any malfeasance discovered?
3. What specifically are the rules for CCP employee participation in EvE? (Eg.. Are they allowed to scam? Are they allowed to win T2 BPO's? If discovered are they allowed to transfer their assets?)
4. How is CCP employee oversight handled?
Quite frankly Kieron, CCP's response is wholly inadequate and this is rapidly turning into a "jump the shark" moment for CCP.
And no offense Avon, but your dogged defense of BoB and the Devs is succeeding in doing nothing but convincing the general public that Bob was complicit in developer misconduct.
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Amiable Quinn
Minmatar
Lasleinur Production
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Posted - 2007.02.07 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Amiable Quinn on 07/02/2007 17:30:04
Originally by: Logan Feynman
He left BPOs. There was a finite and precise number of BPOs of each type given. Each BPO in game is accounted for. Especially those owned by dev characters. We can be pretty sure they were not "a bunch of marked bills", so the argument should just stop there.
Note highlighted text.
How do you know this Logan? CCP has not said word one about how they monitor Dev accounts (even after we have asked them to repeatedly).
Do you have access to some information you are not sharing?
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Amiable Quinn
Minmatar
Lasleinur Production
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Posted - 2007.02.07 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ituralde
How stupid do you people get?
Learn to win a war ingame, and quit your bloody whining on the forums because you suck.
I know you may find it hard to believe but this debate has nothing to do with folks "sucking." It has everything to do with our confidence in the game. Your bizarre, angry rants just highlight this point, especially because Star Fraction is one of the Alliances Devs have admitted to being members of.
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